Homosexuality

[MikeParticipant]

arizonagirl,

Thank you for your understanding. Here is as specific as I will get… my personal perspective is only so important as it can be based on Science – what is found in The Books. So, when I say we need to judge, I mean plainly that we need to judge everything that confronts our thought – both individually and collectively – and determine if we will accept it as truth or reject it as error – and we are accountable either way. As for any further opinion, it is not needed. I am simply not going to add my name to a one side or another of a tally sheet.

My goal is no more and no less than to stress the need to judge what we will accept or reject based on spiritual not human discernment or emotion, to be asking ourselves of everything that presents itself to us “is this idea sent from God, or from mortal mind,” to embrace the former and reject – as quickly as possible – the latter. To help others see this when it is appropriate, and whatever the result, to love God above all and our neighbor as ourselves.

With Love

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[TrekParticipant]

Hey, if Homosexuals want to be as miserable as the rest of us, then why shouldn’t we let them marry?

[Annette-DModerator]

I have a great marriage, but Trek’s comment made me laugh! :)

[JDParticipant]

Mike, that’s a great answer. It reminds me of when those who brought a woman caught in the act of adultery before Jesus and asked his opinion of what should be done to her. He just drew in the dirt and then said, “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.” But then he also told the woman, “Go and sin no more.”

[RitaParticipant]

Hi JD, That is the essence of this discussion. Everyone in this discussions agrees that we should “sin no more.” But many people do not think that being gay is, per se, sinful. Certainly some gay people live a sinful life — promiscuity, etc. But so do many heterosexuals. And many gay people live as moral a life as the heterosexual couples who are married and faithful to their vows. No one is advocating accepting sin. But we do advocate that classifying all gay relationships as sinful is wrong.

[BradCarlingParticipant]

Mike,

I have read your responses several times and I am not sure that I really understand where you stand on this issue. Why can’t you simply come out and say what you mean? I can’t see that anything is accomplished by concealing your real meaning behind elegant sounding verbiage. A friend of mine used to call this kind of thing a “word salad”.

[tripParticipant]

Please watch this video . I will be surprised if you don’t see the pure love here. I find it impossible to believe that their love is a sin.

[JDParticipant]

The reason I liked Mike’s answer is that it did remind me of the ways Jesus responded in that situation. And only Christ Jesus could have done what he did in that place in time, to be the Christ, that was not influenced by human judgement, tradition or clerical rules. Jesus loved as the Christ, man’s pure and perfect identity as one with the Father. He was not impressed with entrenched tradition that sought some form of judgement or punishment. He expressed Christly love to all. I believe I was not relating that specific example with homosexuality, but more in terms of seeking judgement.

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[arizonagirlParticipant]

I consider myself a strong person, a confident woman and firmly planted in Christian Science. But I have to admit that with the recent (although not new) anti-gay public political actions of Chick-fil-A it’s hard not to feel like so many people hate me. Although I fully respect people’s right to publicly protest, seeing crowds of people on TV in protest against me (gay) is heartbreaking. Hearing how two 20-year old girlfriends in Texas were recently murdered execution style while one walking down a path for being gay, makes me scared for my own safety (luckily, one survived). And the shooting at the Family Research Council shows it’s on both sides.

Why is there so much hate for something so insignificant? I have always felt so much love in my life from family, friends, and church, but the outside hate and fear is overwhelming. I now understand how people can be so divided and be blinded by error to hate back. But I have to say, it’s hard not to hate those that hate you.

[AmyKeymaster]

Hey arizonagirl,

Loving someone–or lots of someones–who hate you is hard, at least it has been in my life at times.  But it’s not impossible.  It’s actually one of Jesus’ radical teachings.  Check out this blog thread and read the stories of people who’ve done it, blessing themselves and those who hated them.  It’s incredibly inspiring and I think you’ll find it helpful.

http://time4thinkers.com/5-do-good-to-people-who-hate-you/

[arizonagirlParticipant]

Very inspirational, thank you Amy. :-)

 

[AmyKeymaster]

Dawn-Marie just posted a GREAT comment that may be helpful to you:  http://time4thinkers.com/18-wash-someones-feet/

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